PNC 6/20/12


 * Agenda PNC MEETING


 * 06/20/2012 18:00h PST
 * IRC: irc.pirateirc.net
 * Room: #pnc
 * Wiki: [http://www.pirate-party.us/wiki/PNC_6/20/12 http://www.pirate-party.us/wiki/PNC_6/20/12]

attending

 * Zacqary Adam Green, NY
 * Bradley Hall, Florida
 * Jeff Talada, Washington
 * Jarod, GA
 * Erik Zoltan Massachusetts
 * Jake Ziering, CA

unexcused

 * Oklahoma
 * Oregon

At Large Members of the PNC

 * Sacha, Michigan

Proceedings

 * Meeting opened at: 9:08pm EST by Travis McCrea
 * Meeting closed at: 10:49pm EST by Travis McCrea
 * Meeting chaired by Travis McCrea
 * Secretary for this meeting is QuazarGuy
 * Quorum is established. 6 Members out of 8 present
 * Logging Enabled: Yes

Review of previous minutes

 * http://www.pirate-party.us/wiki/PNC_6/13/12

Massachusetts

 * has a consensus to offer a VPN service to its members

Oklahoma

 * absent

Washington

 * have an ideal place to recruit from
 * also good for holding meetings and conventions

Oregon

 * absent

Georgia

 * nothing to report

Florida

 * nothing to report

New York

 * postponed the rehearsal for the Pirate Choir protest
 * recruiting participants from Anon and Reddit
 * also Occupy
 * Josh Lafazan (18 year old school board member) isn't going to be available till August but is still interested in talking with us

California

 * getting our delegate in order for the convention in San Diego
 * there's a convention on the free trade agreement that Mr. Simon flew from Australia asked us to be a part of
 * trying to find an event planner in the Bay Area that can help us with a few ideas for this summer
 * were part of an interview a few days ago with the Huffington Post
 * The Daily Dot article is also going to be coming out shortly
 * they're going to do a follow up at the convention in San Diego
 * first week of July
 * radio interview with KFBK in Sacramento
 * trying to get host some public debates, and perhaps a anti-copyright concert

IT Committee

 * LiquidFeedback not implemented
 * ConsiderIt not implemented, maybe not possible to implement
 * State sign up progress (http://paste2.org/p/2057179 )
 * Colorado hit threshold for sign-ups and we should expect their presence

Progress on Temporary PNC Objectives

 * motion to extend deadline by one week
 * 3 for, at-large (.5) for

Speaker and Promotions

 * Travis is moving back to Idaho and plans on helping out the US

Jeff Replacement Secretary

 * Lindsay will stand in next week

AOB

 * Wiki
 * Promotions committee
 * Policy committee
 * What to do with newbies
 * Pirate Party Picnic
 * Considering July 21

Next meeting: 6/27/12 at 9:00pm EST

Meeting closed: at 10:49 pm EST

Logs
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 * <@teamcoltra> I officially call this meeting to order, at 6:08PM (18:08) PST
 * <@teamcoltra> Can I get a roll call please
 * <@teamcoltra> (name, state)
 *  Zacqary Adam Green, NY
 *  Bradley Hall, Florida
 *  Jeff Talada, Washington
 * <@teamcoltra> We don't actually have quorum
 * <@kusanagi> Liz Brunner, NY
 * <@teamcoltra> kusanagi who is representing NY
 *  teamcoltra, can you unlock the pad?
 * <@teamcoltra> Done
 * <@kusanagi> Zac is the rep now
 * sorry to be late
 * <@teamcoltra> It's alright
 * <@kusanagi> !deop
 * <@teamcoltra> !voice Zacqary
 * <@teamcoltra> !voice Rush
 * <@teamcoltra> !voice QuazarGuy
 * <@teamcoltra> !voice erixoltan
 *  Sacha, Michigan, observer?
 * Actual name, no?
 * <@teamcoltra> the PNC didn't actually agree to that
 * <@teamcoltra> I just made a suggestion
 * <@teamcoltra> no one adopted it as a motion
 *  Jarod GA
 * <@teamcoltra> There that gives us actual quorum
 * <@teamcoltra> !voice jarod_
 * <+erixoltan> Erik Zoltan Massachusetts
 * <@teamcoltra> JakeZ you are representing California tonight?
 *  yes I am
 * <@teamcoltra> You need to tell us your name (and reaffirm you represent california)
 *  Jake Ziering
 * <@teamcoltra> :) Thanks
 *  President California Pirate Party
 * <@teamcoltra> !voice JakeZ
 * <@teamcoltra> And welcome to our meeting :)
 * <+JakeZ> thankyou
 *  No, using real names goes against the pirate party. If you are suggesting that.
 * No, it does not.
 * <+Zacqary> How about we discuss that during the designated part of the meeting where we discuss things like that?
 * <@teamcoltra> There is no pirate party in the world that uses screennames in their meeting
 * <+Zacqary> So as not to derail the meeting.
 * <@teamcoltra> (on a national level at least)
 * <@teamcoltra> Zacqary fair enough, right now there has been no motion against it anyway
 * <@teamcoltra> Let's start with minutes of last week
 * <@teamcoltra> (Link: http://www.pirate-party.us/wiki/PNC_6/06/12)http://www.pirate-party.us/wiki/PNC_6/06/12
 * <@teamcoltra> if everyone can read and agree that they are accurate
 * <+QuazarGuy> it's the wrong week
 *  Yes, it does Kusanagi. Should we add it to the AOB for everyone to discuss it
 * <+erixoltan> lmao QuazarGuy is right
 * <+QuazarGuy> (Link: http://www.pirate-party.us/wiki/PNC_6/13/12)http://www.pirate-party.us/wiki/PNC_6/13/12
 * <@teamcoltra> :) Thanks QuazarGuy
 * <@teamcoltra> Time flys when you are having fun
 * <+QuazarGuy> I need a replacement
 * <+QuazarGuy> this meeting is preventing me from recruiting
 * <@teamcoltra> QuazarGuy right now? or in general?
 * <+QuazarGuy> in general
 * <+QuazarGuy> can discuss at the end
 * <@teamcoltra> Has everyone read last weeks minutes?
 *  QuazarGuy you are one of the officers though. Can y ou really like quit.
 * <+QuazarGuy> I said I would need to be replaced soon
 * <+QuazarGuy> when we voted on it
 * Sacha: knock it off.
 * <@teamcoltra> Okay order guys. The topic is last weeks agenda
 * <+QuazarGuy> I looks fine to me
 * <+erixoltan> agenda looks good to me.
 * <+Zacqary> I wasn't there. kusanagi, this one's on you.
 * Looks good to me
 * <+erixoltan> sorry I meant to say "minutes" not agenda.
 * <@teamcoltra> Okay we will go onto reports, if anyone has an objection to it later just say something
 * <@teamcoltra> erixoltan you are up first
 * <+erixoltan> I may have to leave early for personal reasons.
 * <+erixoltan> Massachusetts voted last week to move our weekly IRC meeting from Tuesday to Thursday.
 * <+erixoltan> For that reason we haven't met since the last PNC meeting. So this will be a short report.
 * <+erixoltan> On the agenda for Thursday is how to offer VPN to our members. We have a consensus to offer it, but we have to work out the details.
 * <+erixoltan> That's really all I have for Mass.
 * <@teamcoltra> Thank you erixoltan
 * <@teamcoltra> Oklahoma isn't here
 * <@teamcoltra> Washington, QuazarGuy
 * <+QuazarGuy> everyone in Washington is busy with work or life, I have an ideal place to recruit from but they meet on Wednesdays during this time and I'm the only free enough person to do it
 * <+QuazarGuy> we're also considering that same place to hold physical meetings and conventions
 * <+QuazarGuy> so not that much
 * <+QuazarGuy> done
 * <@teamcoltra> THanks, that's cool that you guys are looking into that
 * <@teamcoltra> Oregon is not here correct?
 * <+QuazarGuy> correct
 * <@teamcoltra> Okay next then
 * <@teamcoltra> Georgia from jarod_ / Jarod
 * <+jarod_> no changes
 * <@teamcoltra> Florida / Rush ? He may not be here
 * <@teamcoltra> Okay next
 * <@teamcoltra> New York from Zacqary
 * <+Zacqary> We postponed the rehearsal for the Pirate Choir protest to this Saturday. That's when we'll decide which day to do the action itself.
 * <+Zacqary> We're recruiting participants from Anon and Reddit.
 * <+Zacqary> Maybe some from Occupy.
 * <+Zacqary> Ideally they'd all want to get involved with the party afterwards.
 * <+Zacqary> Josh Lafazan isn't going to be available till August but is still interested in talking with us.
 * <+Zacqary> Otherwise, I don't think there's anything else to report. kusanagi, am I missing anything?
 * <@teamcoltra> (Josh is the 18 year old School Board member)
 * That's everything I knew of
 * <+Zacqary> Okay. So that's it, then.
 * <+Rush> I can give Florida's report when ready
 * <@teamcoltra> Rush go ahead
 * <+Rush> Florida has nothing to report.
 * LOL
 * <@teamcoltra> :) Glad we didn't miss that
 * <+Rush> lol
 * <@teamcoltra> Presenting for the first time (I believe) to the PNC as a member: California
 * <@teamcoltra> JakeZ please tell us what you guys have been up to for hte past couple of weeks
 * <@teamcoltra> (or last one week really)
 * <+QuazarGuy> we already have their past couple weeks before this week
 * <@teamcoltra> Yeah that's why I corrected myself :P
 * <@teamcoltra> buuuuuuuut JakeZ doesn't seem to be around... or he is writing a text wall
 * (I am also here from California, I was late so I missed the initial Rollcall, JakeZ might be writing a textwall though)
 * <+JakeZ> sorry was in bathroom!
 * <+JakeZ> California has been getting our delegate in order for the convention in San Diego
 * <+JakeZ> there's a convention on the free trade agreement that Mr. Simon Frew from Australia asked us to be a part of
 * <+JakeZ> Beyond that we're trying to find an event planner in the Bay Area that can help us with a few ideas for this summer
 * <+JakeZ> we're trying to get host some public debates, and perhaps a anti-copyright concert
 * <@teamcoltra> (psst mention your interviews)
 * <+JakeZ> hah, that's right. We were part of an interview a few days ago with the Huffington Post
 * <+JakeZ> The Daily Dot article is also going to be coming out shortly
 * <+JakeZ> or rather, that one is out
 * <+JakeZ> they're going to do a follow up at the convention in San Diego
 * <+JakeZ> which is the firts week in July
 * <@teamcoltra> (psst and the radio interview ;) )
 * <+JakeZ> I think we might have mentioned that last week
 * <+JakeZ> but it was with KFBK in Sacramento
 * <+JakeZ> I think that covers it :-)
 * @teamcoltra looks at the rest of the pirate parties in shame
 * <+Zacqary> Hey, we've been getting interviewed. D:
 * <@teamcoltra> I am just teasing. You are all special
 * <+Zacqary> *<4
 * <+Zacqary> **<3
 * <@teamcoltra> Speaking of special - matuck are you around?
 * Hahaah
 * <@teamcoltra> IT Committee
 * barely
 * <@teamcoltra> What kind of awesome things have you done?
 * ummmm... slept... changed baby... handed to wife to feed and repeat again...
 * Awww
 * <@teamcoltra> Ummm so no IT Committee stuff then :P
 * no
 * <+QuazarGuy> what's the current state of the site?
 * <+QuazarGuy> what's implemented? what's not?
 * the only thing i know thats not implemented is LF
 * <@teamcoltra> I would suggest covering topics 6 and 7 and AOB before 5 if you guys don't mind... because 5 usually drowns out the rest of the meeting
 * <+QuazarGuy> you have considerit working?
 * <@teamcoltra> (whoops sorry, I pressed enter while pre-typing)
 * <+erixoltan> I forgot to mention that Massachusetts Pirate Party is having a hackathon July 1 to get liquid feedback implemented on our site.
 * and considerit... i probably won't get considerit working we have been unable to get a ruby app working after trying multiple different apps
 * <@teamcoltra> too late erixoltan, now you have to say it next week
 * <@teamcoltra> ;)
 * <+erixoltan> matuck jogged my memory
 * erixoltan: that is awesome
 * <+QuazarGuy> cool
 * <+QuazarGuy> can't think of anything else
 * <+QuazarGuy> next week could we have an estimate of how many people have signed up in different states?
 * <@teamcoltra> also matuck can you update California to be a full member state
 * sure
 * <+JakeZ> thankyou
 * <@teamcoltra> Okay so thats all for IT Committee... Actually this is where we should insert our new committee --
 * <@teamcoltra> The PNC 2.0 committee
 *  Okay, I need to go now. Sorry to interrupt. Would it be okay if I sent my AOB stuff to the SAB list
 * <@teamcoltra> Sacha yes
 *  wait, nvm I want to stay for this. After that I need to go though. Please continue. Sorry.
 * <@teamcoltra> Zacqary
 * <@teamcoltra> Have you guys accomplished anything as of the last week?
 * <+Zacqary> I was on vacation when the committee was formed so I haven't been in touch with anyone yet.
 * <@teamcoltra> So are you guys going to need to extend your deadline, which I believe is next week
 * <+Zacqary> I think we COULD do it by then, but it might be a good idea to push it forward.
 * <@teamcoltra> How much time would you request?
 * <+Zacqary> One more week?
 * <+QuazarGuy> I motion to extend the deadline for the PNC proposal by one week
 * <@teamcoltra> There is a motion on the floor:
 * <@teamcoltra> I motion to extend the deadline for the PNC proposal by one week = Seconds?
 * whoops
 * <@teamcoltra> erixoltan would you second: motion to extend the deadline for the PNC proposal by one week
 * <+QuazarGuy> JakeZ, jarod_, Rush, Zacqary
 * <@teamcoltra> (not putting you on the spot, just you didn't see it)
 * <+Zacqary> I can second it, right?
 * <@teamcoltra> Yes
 * <+jarod_> 2nd it
 * <+Rush> What
 * <+Zacqary> Okay. So I do.
 * <@teamcoltra> okay so do we need to debate or just vote?
 * <+QuazarGuy> there is a motion to extend the PNC deadline by a week
 * <+QuazarGuy> two weeks from now
 * <+QuazarGuy> jarod 2nded
 * <@teamcoltra> Okay well considering no one is discussing I will put it up to vote
 * <@teamcoltra> All in favour of motion to extend the deadline for the PNC proposal by one week -- say aye, against say nay
 * <+Rush> I second
 * <+Rush> aye
 *  aye
 * <+Zacqary> Aye
 * <+QuazarGuy> aye
 * <@teamcoltra> !voice erixoltan
 * <@teamcoltra> annd calling the vote
 * <+QuazarGuy> 3.5 for
 * <@teamcoltra> It passes. So the PNC will now continue to operate for 2 more weeks in it's current form.
 * <+erixoltan> aye
 * <+erixoltan> sorry
 * <@teamcoltra> Did the PNC itself need to discuss anything more on this topic, or are we differing all progress to the committee?
 * <+QuazarGuy> they haven't done anything
 * <+QuazarGuy> does the committee need anything?
 * <@teamcoltra> Exactly, my question is, is there anything that the PNC feels it needs to do on this agenda item before we move on
 * <+Zacqary> Well, first of all, I'd like to know who besides me is on it. Sorry that I wasn't in the loop last week.
 * <+erixoltan> I am on the committee. Brady is as well and we have one other person who volunteered and whose name escapes me.
 * <@teamcoltra> You are co-chaired by brady
 * <@teamcoltra> Dan
 * <@teamcoltra> or Dave... I think it's Dan
 * <+QuazarGuy> Brady
 * <+Zacqary> Okay. So Brady, Erik, and Dan?
 * <+erixoltan> I have an email from I believe an additional person who wanted to be on - can't remember exactly the name though.
 * <+Zacqary> Sacha expressed interest in being involved.
 * +QuazarGuy IT committee state sign up progress report ((Link: http://paste2.org/p/2057179)http://paste2.org/p/2057179)
 * <+Zacqary> And wait, the minutes from last week say Brad was running for chair. Is he on the committee too?
 * <+QuazarGuy> Rush, if you're on the PNC committee give your contact info to Zacqary
 * <+Rush> I have no idea what committee I'm on
 * <+Zacqary> Hooooly clusterfuck, Batman.
 * <+Rush> I forgot
 * <+QuazarGuy> to make the bylaws and such
 * <+erixoltan> Zacqary, the other person is Chris Walsh of Massachusetts.
 * <+Zacqary> Okay. So the committee consists of Me, Erik, Chris Walsh, Brady, Dan, and...who else?
 * <+QuazarGuy> you can do this outside the meeting I think
 * <+Zacqary> Okay.
 * <+QuazarGuy> to save us time
 * <+Zacqary> I know what I'm doing, you guys, totally. I swear. :D
 * <+Zacqary> >.>
 * <+erixoltan> If there are other people, and since the existence of the PNC hinges on this, I think it would be relevant.
 * <@teamcoltra> So are we moving on or contenuing ?
 * <+Zacqary> I think we can move on. I'll duct-tape this committee together.
 * <+erixoltan> np
 * <@teamcoltra> I added the next topic myself, if a state wouldn't mind giving me the floor I have some good (?) news
 * <+Zacqary> Motion to give teamcoltra the floor
 * <+erixoltan> second
 * <@teamcoltra> If anyone objects at any point please say so, and I will gladly open up a formal vote
 * <@teamcoltra> Okay, so I have decided that I am going to move back to the United States, something I swore I wouldn't do -- due to the legal threat I face by living in teh country. However, the US Pirate Party needs much more help than the Pirate Party of Canada
 * <@teamcoltra> and as such I am going to be moving back, and engaging state parties (and assisting in the formation of a Pirate Party of Idaho) and going to be doing speaking events
 * <@teamcoltra> That said, I am a great canvasser, I am comfortable with public speaking events, and so if any state would like my presence to help them with getting their state going as a full time dedicated person I just need my travel covered and a couch to sleep on.
 * <+erixoltan> wow that is big news!
 * <+QuazarGuy> welcome back Travis
 * Wow
 * <@teamcoltra> Also if you have any local schools (high school / college) and you would like to have me do a speaking engagement
 * <+QuazarGuy> sort of feel sorry for you
 * <+Zacqary> That's really brave of you, Trav.
 * <@teamcoltra> I can do that
 * <+JakeZ> come this fall, I could try to find you a place to stay in San Francisco
 * <@teamcoltra> (plus if the highschool / college will pay my trip.. then you are off the hook) I specialize in the importance of civic duties and engaging youth in politics. I also do other speaking events which we can discuss later, but I can basically talk on anything technology / pirate / copyright
 * <@teamcoltra> Thats all, thanks guys :)
 * <+QuazarGuy> WA is going to abuse you Travis
 * <@teamcoltra> QuazarGuy I was thinking since I live 30 minutes away from Spokane, I would help build up your Eastern team
 * <+QuazarGuy> sure thing
 * <+QuazarGuy> I've been wanting to drive out there
 * <+QuazarGuy> but lets move on
 * <@teamcoltra> Indeed
 * <@teamcoltra> So self serving, as moving on is a discussion about Jeff
 * <@teamcoltra> ;)
 * <@teamcoltra> Jeff would like to step down as secretary of the PNC
 * <+QuazarGuy> oh you were 6?
 * <@teamcoltra> (it seems)
 * <+QuazarGuy> ok
 * <+QuazarGuy> so before we voted on secretary I announced that I'd need to be replaced around this time
 * <+QuazarGuy> should we take candidates and vote next week?
 * <@teamcoltra> QuazarGuy the PNC officials will need to be revoted in 2 weeks
 * <@teamcoltra> (if I understand the rules properly)
 * I believe so.
 * <+QuazarGuy> ok well I'd like a week to train the next person then
 * <@teamcoltra> What I am saying is if we elect a new person
 * <@teamcoltra> they will have 1 week
 * <+QuazarGuy> ah
 * <@teamcoltra> then have to be reelected
 * <@teamcoltra> :P
 * <+QuazarGuy> right and the obligations will be rewritten
 * Well, I could do both positions, sort of.
 * <@teamcoltra> QuazarGuy would you settle on having someone stand in for you instead?
 * <+QuazarGuy> yeah
 * <@teamcoltra> Like, keep your title, but have an alternate... in which case we don't need to appoint them, just fine one :)
 * <@teamcoltra> find*
 * <+QuazarGuy> sure
 * <+QuazarGuy> unfortunately, Brady can't
 * <+QuazarGuy> is anyone willing to stand in for me next week?
 * <@teamcoltra> They also don't have to be in this body, they can be anyone
 * <+QuazarGuy> anyone not already allowed to speak may say they're willing
 * Would the position require a lot of typing?
 * <+QuazarGuy> I mostly copy/paste
 * I could do that.
 * <@teamcoltra> Okay so on to Any Other Business?
 * <+QuazarGuy> what's with the wiki?
 * <+QuazarGuy> thanks kusi
 * No prob
 * Sacha was compaining in #uspp before the meeting
 * About how the wiki is and the Tuesday meetings are
 * I believe she said something aout bringing this to the sab
 * <+QuazarGuy> ok?
 * Yeah
 * Haha
 * <+QuazarGuy> so we'll do that in email then
 * <+erixoltan> no choice
 * <+QuazarGuy> promotions committee?
 * Yeah
 * <+QuazarGuy> that too?
 * Something like that
 * <+QuazarGuy> everything in purple Sachas?
 * Yep
 * <+QuazarGuy> lol ok
 * <+QuazarGuy> so Mass and WA held a Pirate Party Picnic last year on the same day in July
 * <@teamcoltra> How did they turn out?
 * <+QuazarGuy> at least 15 people came for WA
 * <+QuazarGuy> Mass had a better turn out I think
 * <+QuazarGuy> everyone had fun
 * <+QuazarGuy> but I think it would be great to turn this into a national convention type event
 * <+erixoltan> I was not actively involved at the time of the Mass event.
 * <+QuazarGuy> I think it would also be awesome if Pirates from all the states could communicate with Pirates from other states at the event
 * <+QuazarGuy> like a google+ hangout or something
 * Hmm
 * <+QuazarGuy> any other states interested?
 * <+JakeZ> that sounds like a great idea
 * It does!
 * <+JakeZ> google+ limits to 9 people
 * <+QuazarGuy> last year we did like July 20thish
 * <+JakeZ> so the structure could be a bit awkward
 * <+QuazarGuy> well that just limits us to 9 states participating at any one time
 * <@teamcoltra> :P I doubt we will have more than 9 states
 * <+JakeZ> true
 * <@teamcoltra> No offense to the party
 * <+QuazarGuy> and we're about there, we'll have to figure something out for next year
 * <+QuazarGuy> but July 21 is a saturday
 * <+QuazarGuy> this year
 * Hm
 * <+QuazarGuy> would we all like to plan to have it then?
 * <+erixoltan> I'm sure Mass would love to be involved in a joint event.
 * <+erixoltan> I can bring up any specific ideas.
 * <@teamcoltra> QuazarGuy I am going to be in your neck of the woods on the last day of the month, if anyone wants to meetup
 * <+QuazarGuy> I think either July 21 or 28 would be good
 * <+QuazarGuy> sure teamcoltra
 * <+QuazarGuy> should we discuss a date next week?
 * <+QuazarGuy> give everyone time to cheak with their states
 * <+QuazarGuy> check*
 * <@teamcoltra> That sounds like a good option QuazarGuy buty ou should also come up with something tentative now
 * <+QuazarGuy> plan for July 21
 * <+QuazarGuy> like that?
 * <+JakeZ> I'll take a look at our calendar but I'm sure we can have someone there for either of those dates
 * <+QuazarGuy> well CA would hold their own picnic and join the google+ hangout
 * <@teamcoltra> QuazarGuy - would you like to invite world Pirates?
 * <@teamcoltra> or make this an American thing?
 * <+QuazarGuy> American thing
 * <+QuazarGuy> but they are welcome to join the chatroom beside it
 * <+JakeZ> I don't understand what you mean
 * <+JakeZ> oh I see
 * <+JakeZ> nm
 * <+QuazarGuy> I've never done a hangout, can others view the video feeds?
 * <+JakeZ> so we'd be broadcasting from a picnic?
 * <+QuazarGuy> yeah
 * <+JakeZ> yea others can view, to answer your question
 * <+erixoltan> I've sent a letter to the Mass Pirate party about this. Will hope to discuss it tomorrow at our IRC.
 * <+QuazarGuy> awesome, I think this will be great
 * <+JakeZ> I'm not sure the logistics though of wireless video streaming in a park or whatevs
 * <+QuazarGuy> WA will be using a hackerspace
 * <@teamcoltra> anyone who has a rooted android phone can set it up
 * <+QuazarGuy> it'll probably eat your data plan alive though
 * <+erixoltan> nothing wrong with a backyard too
 * <+QuazarGuy> sure
 * <+QuazarGuy> so lets aim for July 21st
 * <@teamcoltra> is that a motion?
 * <+QuazarGuy> well they need to ask their states
 * <+QuazarGuy> I do too :p
 * <+JakeZ> I like the idea of waiting for next week to set in stone
 * <+JakeZ> but lets shoot for that
 * <@teamcoltra> kk
 * <@teamcoltra> next topic?
 * <+QuazarGuy> I think I may have pasted that in the wrong place
 * <+QuazarGuy> someone's state report
 * <+QuazarGuy> thinking CA's
 * <+QuazarGuy> yes
 * <+JakeZ> what?
 * <+QuazarGuy> that's all then
 * <+QuazarGuy> I mispasted soemthign you said earlier
 * <+JakeZ> oh I see
 * <+QuazarGuy> so reminder, everyone in the PNC committee get your contact info to Zac
 * <+QuazarGuy> I motion to adjourn
 * <+erixoltan> second
 * <+QuazarGuy> teamcoltra
 * <@teamcoltra> All in favour?
 * <+QuazarGuy> aye
 * <+erixoltan> aye
 * <+JakeZ> aye
 * <+Zacqary> Aye
 * <+Rush> aye
 * <+erixoltan> teamcoltra, when you move to the US you'll have to say "all in favor" instead of "all in favour"... ;)
 * <@teamcoltra> okay
 * <@teamcoltra> :P
 * <+QuazarGuy> :p
 * <@teamcoltra> meeting adjourned