PNC 3/26/14

=::PNC Meeting Agenda::=
 * --- 03/26/2014 21:00h EDT ---
 * IRC: irc.pirateirc.net
 * Room: #pnc
 * Wiki: https://uspirates.org/wiki/PNC_3/26/14

Minutes
Record of the meeting
 * pirate-party.us
 * MAPP expresses interest in owning the domain, will report back
 * Joseph Yaworski and Nic Desalvo volunteer to deliver questions to Congress in-person
 * Send questions to Congress
 * States will report back with questions

1.1 - Members of the PNC
Attending Excused Georgia Unexcused Oregon Florida Probation "Observers"
 * Daniel Gorski, NY rep
 * Francis Klein, WI rep
 * Lucia Fiero, WA rep
 * Duane A. Garner, AL, Director of IT
 * Nic Desalvo, MD

1.3 - Officers of the PNC

 * Lindsay Anne-Brunner, Chair
 * Andrew Norton, Vice Chair
 * Joseph Yaworski, Quartermaster

2 - PROCEEDINGS

 * Meeting called to order at: 09:16 pm EDT
 * Meeting chaired by Lindsay Anne-Brunner
 * Secretary for this meeting is Joseph Yaworski
 * Quorum is established: 3 out of 6 Members present
 * Logging Enabled: Yes

3 - Review of previous minutes
https://uspirates.org/wiki/PNC_2/26/14

IT Committee

 * Duane reports no access on the IT committee side
 * Will push for more access

5 - Agenda Items

 * IT committee Update
 * Follow-up discussion of pirate-party.us domain

- AOB -

 * Candidates will be put on the uspirates.org site similar to MAPP
 * http://masspirates.org/blog/2013/10/29/whats-in-your-file-pt1/


 * Next meeting: 04/30/2014 at 9:00PM EDT
 * Meeting closed: 10:14PM EDT

Logs of the Meeting
[21:17] Ok, time is now 9:16PM eastern [21:17]  back [21:18] I call this meeting to order. please identify with your full name and state (role, if applicable) for the record [21:18] Lindsay-Anne Brunner, Capt. [21:18] Joseph Yaworski, USPP Quartermaster [21:18]  Daniel Gorski, NYPP Rep [21:18]  Francis Klein, WIPP rep [21:18]  Duane Garner, AL, Dir. IT Committee [21:19] Bluestreak: ping [21:20] Nic desalvo Maryland [21:21] Only 2 reps have identified. [21:23]  Lucia Fiero MA Rep [21:23] thank you [21:23]  sry bathroom [21:24] happens to everyone. [21:24] So first up. hi DuaneG, how was IT? [21:27]  Well, thus far we've I've been having a hard time trying to get access to pretty much every level of the administration; I've Wordpress access now and am going to make a few changes as I see needed, hopefully recieve feedback to make further changes and still waiting for access to the back-end [21:28]  which passwords and accounts do you still need exactly? [21:28]  We had a meeting on Saturday, sent an email out via SAB a week in advance and no one showed up. Not sure if it was a bad time or if I'm going to be the only one doing IT. [21:28]  The host. [21:29]  Ok. What is it hosted on? [21:29]  I was told but forgot.. It's not GoDaddy. I've emailed Caleb just today and waiting for a reply now. [21:29]  I trust Caleb has it and can help. [21:29]  I believe so. [21:29] FrancisKlein: is Bosun still actively involved in http://uspp.wipp.coop/? [21:30]  He still has passwords, don't know how much has been done lately [21:31] DuaneG: the site I linked is sort of the next-generation site. It's for testing. It was created a while ago. [21:31]  we've been having problems with wipp.coop though... attacks from ukraine were most recent version, so he's been busy with that - doubt he's done anything on the site in past week [21:32] <DuaneG> Looks good, just different color sceheme it looks like from the front-end of ours [21:33] <DuaneG> Is this what you guys are wanting to change to USPirates? [21:33] <FrancisKlein> DuaneG - Do you know wether bosun has password and account for host? I don't remember him saying anything along that line [21:33] <DuaneG> Bosun? [21:34] <FrancisKlein> Bosun = Joe [21:34] <FrancisKlein> It's his username [21:34] FrancisKlein: AFAIK the situation hasn't changed since IT last met, which was that wipp.coop was created because no one could contact Caleb to get the credentials. [21:34] <FrancisKlein> Yes, and that's what I was afraid of [21:34] <DuaneG> Ahh.. I don't know. tbh Joe and my communication is slow at best. Joe is slow at replying. I'm sure he has his reasons but it's hard to talk to him about anything. [21:35] Caleb has been responsive again as of late, he claimed that Bosun never contacted him. [21:35] <FrancisKlein> That is incorrect - mayhap missed communication, but I have seen emails Joe sent [21:36] <FrancisKlein> regardless, If Duane can contact caleb [21:36] <FrancisKlein> and get host username password then we are set [21:36] <DuaneG> Well I asked Caleb to provide me with anything and everything I need to administer to orginization. [21:36] <FrancisKlein> That was the problem that started this whole second site thing in the first place, no? [21:36] <FrancisKlein> ok [21:36] <FrancisKlein> any response? or was that recently? [21:37] <DuaneG> I just sent before this started. [21:37] <FrancisKlein> ok [21:37] <FrancisKlein> good luck and may his response be swift [21:37] <FrancisKlein> ;) [21:37] Caleb and I have been in contact as well. [21:37] <FrancisKlein> anything on that end? [21:38] <DuaneG> I hope so; but I hope to have next certain fellows in the next IT meeting so we can discuss what direction to do with what [21:38] Some work picked up over the weekend for him, which was why he wasn't present [21:38] but has said he will respond to email or text [21:38] <FrancisKlein> ok, that's encouraging [21:38] <FrancisKlein> hopefully Duane will get a response soon [21:39] If not, I'll go to MN. Haha [21:39] <FrancisKlein> I can go... MN is closer to me [21:40] <FrancisKlein> Here's hoping that is not necessary [21:40] <DuaneG> Alright everyone, I have to run.. I'm actually on the clock for a client.. Sorry I can't stay, forgot Wednesday was the PNC meeting. But Saturday will be our next IT meeting, unless something comes up, in which I'll email SAB. [21:40] I think he's more scared of me. [21:40] haha [21:41] Thank you so much, DuaneG [21:41] <DuaneG> Francis and anyone else who can, please try and make the IT meeting on Saturday. [21:41] <FrancisKlein> Thanks, Duane! [21:41] hopefully sat will be better [21:41] This Saturday, correct? [21:41] <FrancisKlein> Yes - it's on my calendar [21:41] <DuaneG> I hope so! We need to figure out what direction to go, after I have all the access. [21:41] there are some ideas. we'll talk about them then. [21:41] <DuaneG> Thank you Francis, and thanks for the platform kusanagi. [21:41] <DuaneG> Yes Puddle. [21:41] <DuaneG> 10-4 [21:41] <DuaneG> Have a great night guys. [21:42] <FrancisKlein> same time as last one, yes? [21:42] <DuaneG> Mhmmm [21:42] <FrancisKlein> cool [21:42] <DuaneG> 7 CST [21:42] <FrancisKlein> thanks [21:43] <DuaneG> 'night guys. [21:43] <-- DuaneG (~DuaneG@24.sub-333-999-7.myvzw.com) has left this server. [21:43] next up, the pirate-party.us followup [21:43] I believe Bluestreak was in contact with Chris. Anything on that end? [21:43] <Bluestreak> He was very cooperative. [21:43] <Bluestreak> I thought. [21:44] <Bluestreak> "I'd be happy to work with you to get pirapte-party.us transferred to a Pirate Party organization that is legally recognized in any US state that works with the PNC. Or is the PNC a legal org again? Please let me know." [21:45] <Bluestreak> Well, he has *one* stipulation. [21:45] <Bluestreak> I think MAPP fits his criteria. [21:45] Yesyes, that's where we left off. MAPP, FLPP, and WIPP all technically meet that. [21:46] though third-party status was lost by FLPP, they still are a legal non-prof that works with us [21:46] <Bluestreak> make an executive decision. [21:46] <Bluestreak> Or put it to a vote. [21:46] It's up to who wants it. [21:46] <Bluestreak> MAPP would take it on if you need us to. [21:46] <Bluestreak> But we don't necessarily *want* it. [21:47] <FrancisKlein> For my part, I would rather MAPP take it [21:47] FL has no rep here, so I can't ask them. FrancisKlein, would WIPP? [21:47] <FrancisKlein> WIPP *would* [21:47] <Bluestreak> I mean it would *cost* us to take it, right? [21:47] <Bluestreak> We have beau coup expenses as it is, so if WIPP wants it... [21:48] <FrancisKlein> ... [21:48] <FrancisKlein> no [21:48] <Bluestreak> LOL [21:48] It is my understanding that this is only "take" in a legal sense, and that it would be managed elsewhere. It looks like the domain expires in 2020, so I don't think there's any cost associated with it. [21:48] <Bluestreak> What's a few more bucks a year? [21:48] <Bluestreak> Oh... no cost? No problem then. [21:49] <FrancisKlein> Cool [21:49] <Bluestreak> We are at your service. [21:49] Since you're already in communication with Sheats anyway, it makes sense. [21:49] <FrancisKlein> If there are any problems with MAPP hookup, though, WIPP is happy to help out [21:49] <FrancisKlein> but yes, MAPP makes more sense [21:50] <Bluestreak> OK, so I will put it to our IRC tomorrow. [21:50] <FrancisKlein> thanks [21:50] <FrancisKlein> :) [21:50] <Bluestreak> We take the domain over and place it at USPP disposal... [21:50] <Bluestreak> Is that the proposal? [21:51] As of right now, the domain points to uspirates.org [21:51] Bluestreak: domains have an administrative contact (MAPP), a billing contact (probably MAPP, but not relevant) and a technical contact (could be IT). [21:51] ^ jyaworski knows better than i do [21:52] <Bluestreak> Steve may understand this well, too. [21:52] <Bluestreak> I will consult with him. [21:52] <Bluestreak> (Our QM) [21:53] <Bluestreak> I will submit this to Jamie for the agenda for tomorrow night. [21:53] Awesome. and thank you [21:53] Bluestreak: I point you to sites like http://www.whois.com/whois/pirate-party.us for more information. This is information associated with the domain. [21:53] <Bluestreak> OK. Thanks. [21:54] Ok, next up. Andrew Norton had a pretty good idea, one the Pirates have done previously and he'd like to do it again [21:55] He would like to collect questions to submit to those in Congress and post about and rate their answers for the site, if my memory serves me properly [21:55] For those unaware, Andrew has said he will be late due to a prior commitment. He may be joining us. [21:55] That's a grand idea [21:56] <FrancisKlein> agreed [21:56] <Bluestreak> I'm sure Steve R in MA has some excellent questions. [21:56] <Bluestreak> (Again, our QM) [21:57] I proposed a lqfb type system to filter the questions, if we were to take submissions from the site [21:57] but ofc, I can't remember exactly how he wanted to take them [21:57] I would love a lqfb system, but others want something new [21:58] Last I heard [21:58] puddle: ? [21:58] That's a while back, sorry [21:59] I didn't hear anything about that.. [21:59] Anyway [21:59] For now, if each state wants to send in a few questions to the board, we could have jyaworski send them via sneakernet. [21:59] Also for those unaware, I live in the DC metro area. This is not a problem for me. [22:00] <FrancisKlein> cool I will make sure we do that [22:01] awesome [22:02] That's not 100% of what Norton wanted, but he can continue this over SAB. [22:02] Im just outside of the dc metro area, I could assist with delivering questions via sneakernet as well [22:03] So, that concludes the agenda. [22:03] Does anyone have anything else to bring up for AOB? [22:04] <Bluestreak> I'm good. [22:04] <FrancisKlein> nada [22:04] Next meeting time suggestions? The last Wednesday of the month worked this month, but what about next month? [22:04] <FrancisKlein> oh wait - [22:04] <FrancisKlein> Do I have access to uspirates [22:04] <FrancisKlein> as in editing priveleges [22:05] <FrancisKlein> and if so can we make a candidates tab and list all the current pirate candidates [22:05] <FrancisKlein> that would be nice [22:05] <FrancisKlein> perhaps have links, info for each [22:05] <Bluestreak> Oh, while we are at it, would you consider reposting Steve's series "What's in your file"? [22:05] Bluestreak: yeeess!! send it over! [22:05] and FrancisKlein you SHOULD have access, I'm checking now [22:06] <FrancisKlein> ok. I think I do... [22:06] <Bluestreak> kusanagi it's on our blog [22:06] yes, you have admin [22:06] <Bluestreak> I will send you the link to each part, though [22:06] awesome. is there an ideal space [22:06] that's fine [22:06] <Bluestreak> for ease of posting. [22:07] thank you [22:07] it's much appreciated [22:07] <FrancisKlein> BTW - are the questions we are posting to the board being sent to CONGRESS? I don't think I properly understood the idea [22:07] <Bluestreak> http://masspirates.org/blog/2013/10/29/whats-in-your-file-pt1/ [22:07] <Bluestreak> ^Part one [22:07] <Bluestreak> I will email you ALL the links! [22:08] <Bluestreak> (Can I go to bed now?) :-D [22:08] FrancisKlein: yes [22:08] <FrancisKlein> cool [22:09] <FrancisKlein> did you see that I have access? [22:09] please email them, only because they might get lost in my logs [22:09] FrancisKlein: yes, i did. you have admin [22:09] <FrancisKlein> ok [22:09] <FrancisKlein> thanks [22:12] <FrancisKlein> if nothing else, i take my leave [22:12] Anything else? [22:13] <Bluestreak> Nope. [22:13] <FrancisKlein> nothing for me [22:13] jyaworski: it seems to have worked well [22:13] So, next meeting, end of april? [22:13] Very well. The next meeting is scheduled for April 30th, the last day of April. [22:14] <Bluestreak> Eeeexxxcellent [22:14] Wonderful [22:14] <FrancisKlein> have a good night - see you all then [22:14] <FrancisKlein> :D [22:14] <-- FrancisKlein (webchat@14-880-49-08.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) has left this server (Quit: Web client closed). [22:14] <Bluestreak> Maybe it won't be 20 friggin degrees out. [22:14] So, reps, since we've lost quorum, we're out