Sayyida Roll, please
Sayyida Megan Klein Chair Wisconsin
OGPAF Johann Drolshagen, Webmaster
Bosun Sorry Joseph Klein Wisconsin
Sayyida with Bosun we make quorum. Sadly I do not feel comfortable making long term calls unless Joe is here
Sayyida but let’s review a few things
OGPAF I’m Ok with that – nothing long term to discuss on my end
Bosun We need to talk with Pirate Joe.
Sayyida we spoke of the 50____ conditions of our party
Sayyida I spoke with him Bosun
Sayyida I did some surface digging on the status and I am not a fan of having a PAC
OGPAF too bad – good money and a lot of freedom in a PAC
Sayyida seems a bit against our principle
OGPAF I get that
Sayyida it’s like money laundering if used wrong and that’s something I never want the party to face
Sayyida I have little faith in humanity
OGPAF that’s where my faith went – I have none
Bosun Political parties have few limitations, you just need to be on the record with what you gave.
Sayyida true the cure needs a bit of the disease, but a PAC is a bit too risky long term
Sayyida OGPAF, haha
Sayyida I will catch joe up on this later, but maybe a 527 or whatever might be best for us as far as status
Sayyida again this decision will be made later
OGPAF cool, my only 2 cents is…consider multiple
Bosun Which just means good record-keeping until we hit the reporting amount
Sayyida records is what we do with this party and we keep them open and not secret
Sayyida that is not a moral problem with me
Sayyida for example if Germany wanted to give us money, they can’t legally, by the way, we have to record and show it vs in a PAC there is no such thing
Sayyida I do not want to risk our integrity
Bosun In theory, we can also have 52+ state, commonwealth, and district committees.
Sayyida I also need to announce that elections are coming up, Bosun can you send an email out tonight about that?
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Pirate_Joe Sorry for the delay, baby duties
Sayyida I completly understand, no worries at all
Pirate_Joe Joseph Onoroski, Vice-Chair, MA
Sayyida we were discussing pac/527 whatever its called for our status, I do not want to decide without you
Bosun Sayyida and I are having a fit of integrity.
Sayyida also elections are coming up
Sayyida we are 2 weeks out from our election
Bosun Sebastian finally passed out …
Pirate_Joe I am still leaning towards a straight nonconnect PAC for the nation. Even though it limits how we raise money, it comes with a lot of safe guards as well
Sayyida THANK GOD Bosun
Bosun Then Date and Time …. Who runs?
Pirate_Joe Aye to that
Sayyida The meeing on JULY 29
Sayyida I want a PNC email out
Sayyida Pirate_Joe, where I feel that we, I mean you Bosun I ect are going to be just with a PAC, I feel that others may be less transparent and honest
Sayyida I don’t have much faith in humanity, especailly with money
OGPAF Any word on the Cali Cartel, I mean the CA Chapter?
Sayyida I have not heard anything from them, granted they are hard to reach. I will youtube their meetings and nail the jello to the wall
Pirate_Joe That’s why we have to be as transparent as possible?
Sayyida the risk that happened in NY a few years ago with germans puts that PAC at risk
Sayyida the lack of legal knowlage and what not is dangerous and I don’t want the party to make the mistake and error as the GOP and the DNC
Bosun Party contributions are pretty much unlimited, you just need to report who contributed.
Sayyida we can keep transparent records without a PAC
Sayyida as I find a pac useful right now, I don’t think 5 years down the road it will be helpful
Sayyida it might be a hinderance
Pirate_Joe Each person is limited to 500 unless they are running, 1k for those who do run
Pirate_Joe Tee-shirt idea does not work with a pac either
Pirate_Joe Hence setting up multiple orgs as OGPAF was stating
Pirate_Joe but then the additional costs of maintaining such orgs becomes a thing, as well has having a treasurer for each independent and possible conflicts of interest.
Sayyida I have less moral issue with multiple orgs, as long as records are transparent and people can not use it to be reckless
Bosun That may be MA but I don’t think that is FEC
Pirate_Joe Since we are just starting, I would lean towards picking one and going with it.
Pirate_Joe MA is a special place…..
OGPAF point of clarity – multiple treasurers is 100% correct, but as growing we can use a single bookkeeper [probably paid] and have the records ratified by those elected
Sayyida I see the 527 as a possibility
OGPAF 527 has good scope
Sayyida Pirate_Joe, yes, yes it is
Sayyida it seems to fit what we need and gives us the option to have multiples over time
Pirate_Joe Motion to vote on starting with 527 to org?
Sayyida all for?
Sayyida for record we are 5min til time
Sayyida Elections are in 2 wks
Bosun I can do the footwork with FEC and look at incorporation in DC.
Sayyida thank you Bosun
Bosun Basically done that already.
OGPAF thumbs up
Sayyida I will be running for captain again
Bosun The research.
Sayyida I don’t know about the rest of you
Pirate_Joe Aye, then when we have the EIN I will open the bank accounts
Sayyida Pirate_Joe, good
Pirate_Joe Thank you Bosun
Sayyida after which we start merch if we can afford the store and whatnot
OGPAF can anyione send me the ‘active’ social media that we have, plz?
Pirate_Joe I am glad we have decided on it.
Bosun Yep – I’ll be the first donorar with the filling fees.
Pirate_Joe lol, aye
Sayyida our USPP FB page is active, but weak
Sayyida we need to kick it up a bit
Sayyida I have not seen jamie in a while, is he ok?
Sayyida Pirate_Joe, do you have any idea where he went?
OGPAF I found twitter account with 4k +
Bosun You should put the PPI feed into the site. Does MA do a feed?
Sayyida that is active but I have a need to get the keys again
Pirate_Joe He has been extra focused on the family front. All is well but it is keeping him fairly occupied.
OGPAF I intend to put any org feed that I can find in
Sayyida ok we are at time
Sayyida motion to adjourn
Sayyida all in favor?
Sayyida Pirate_Joe, ?
Sayyida meeting adjourned